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Jan 26, 2020

Jonathan and Chris speak to Stephan Guyenet, Ph.D., the author of the book The Hungry Brain and the creator of the health book review site Red Pen Reviews, about hunger, obesity, and the highs and lows of debating a journalist on one of the biggest platforms on the Internet.


0:00 Introduction

2:00 How evolution shaped our brain

3:20 Hunger

9:00 The disconnect between hunger and energy needs

15:12 The stressed-out brain of an obese mouse

18:54 Weight loss drugs targeting the brain

21:50 It’s a thermostat… but not really

28:00 Stress and obesity

29:44 Debating journalist Gary Taubes on The Joe Rogan Experience

36:14 False balance on massive platforms

39:32 Rhetoric and the unstructured debate

44:42 Stephan’s eating habits

47:54 Informative reviews of health and nutrition books

51:40 Rewards: food, sex and gold


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1) Stephan’s book, The Hungry Brain:

2) Stephan’s website:

3) Stephan Guyenet on Twitter:

4) Red Pen Reviews:

5) Stephan on the Joe Rogan Experience: